Thank you Steph for exploring these issues related to Femmconne. I am going this year and am looking forward to it, but I have a lot of similar (although not the same) issues. Happy to go into in person some time.
I second Mikey on the men and emotions thing.... as I see it this is a matter of men not being seen to EXPRESS their emotions. Every man I have met, even the most visible emotion-less, has had VERY strong emotions simmering under the surface. Sometimes I need to look closely or _differently_ to see them. Other times they are only made visible to me in times of emotional stress. Or the occasional glimpse into the masculine private world, almost a men's space, which women do not usually see.
For my own observations some of the most immense emotions which I have seen have been by men; all the stronger for being generally repressed.
If Mikey is allowed to talk about Jung, I am going to bring Jane Austen into this :-) Ms Austen never once wrote a scene that had only men in it. Every scence is either a single woman, multiple women, or had a woman observer. This is because she never saw men alone of course, so would not have known how they behaved alone. Unlike Austen we have video, but it is not the same.
Another Austen quote is the letter in Persuasion which talks exactly on the topic of a man saying that he feels and loves as much as a woman.
Interesting topic and worth bringing up Maybe for Swancon discussion :-)
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Date: 2008-09-12 02:04 am (UTC)Thank you Steph for exploring these issues related to Femmconne. I am going this year and am looking forward to it, but I have a lot of similar (although not the same) issues. Happy to go into in person some time.
I second Mikey on the men and emotions thing.... as I see it this is a matter of men not being seen to EXPRESS their emotions. Every man I have met, even the most visible emotion-less, has had VERY strong emotions simmering under the surface. Sometimes I need to look closely or _differently_ to see them. Other times they are only made visible to me in times of emotional stress. Or the occasional glimpse into the masculine private world, almost a men's space, which women do not usually see.
For my own observations some of the most immense emotions which I have seen have been by men; all the stronger for being generally repressed.
If Mikey is allowed to talk about Jung, I am going to bring Jane Austen into this :-) Ms Austen never once wrote a scene that had only men in it. Every scence is either a single woman, multiple women, or had a woman observer. This is because she never saw men alone of course, so would not have known how they behaved alone. Unlike Austen we have video, but it is not the same.
Another Austen quote is the letter in Persuasion which talks exactly on the topic of a man saying that he feels and loves as much as a woman.
Interesting topic and worth bringing up Maybe for Swancon discussion :-)